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Grayling hits back in Tesco row

Time was when Polly Toybnee was the poster girl of some Cameroons in Opposition. Greg Clark, David Willetts and David Cameron himself heaped praise on her.

Many other Tories were very sceptical and relations are now very much back to normal. Today, Chris Grayling has decided to hit back hard at her latest column, which backs the protest movement that is targeting Tescos.  

The minister has now written an open letter to Polly pointing out why she is wrong to support the campaigners - and why the Government is doing the right thing to help people get back into work.

It's a PolHome exclusive. Here's his letter:

 

Dear Polly

I read your article last night supporting the militant campaigners who are trying to destroy the Work Experience scheme and  I thought would write to explain to you what you are actually opposing and supporting protest against.


The Work Experience scheme works like this.


After a young person has been unemployed for typically twelve weeks, the Job Centre Plus adviser will sit down and talk through different job options and possible sectors where they might be interested in working and where there might be jobs available.


Say they express an interest in care, for example, Job Centre Plus will then offer them a possible short term work experience placement of between 2 and 8 weeks with an organisation in the care sector. If they are interested, and we have an appropriate placement available, then we will send them to meet the employer. If they get on, and the young person wants to do the placement, they will start with that organisation. If things don’t work out, they have an automatic right to leave the placement within the first week. If they pull out after that, in order to protect the employer and the time they have committed to the placement, then we will investigate what has gone wrong, and if they have no good reason for leaving then they can face the same sanction as someone who does not turn up for their fortnightly signing on interview. We only sanction a tiny proportion of people, since this is a voluntary scheme and the situation almost never arises.


In the case of the retail sector, someone who is placed with one of the big retailers, like Tesco, will be there because they have expressed an interest in working in the retail sector but have little or no experience of it.


So far our experience has been that a significant number of placements turn into jobs, with the employer getting to like the young person and keeping them on. We have had cases of jobs being offered within days.


Where there is no job available, we have often seen people get a job with a similar employer very quickly. So for example, I was in the north-west recently and talked to a Job Centre Plus adviser who had managed to place a number of young people who had done work experience with one retailer, with another who had vacancies.


As you will have seen, so far around half those doing placements have come off benefits very quickly afterwards.


This is the scheme the protestors, who you are supporting, are trying to destroy.


It’s proving to be one of the best and quickest ways to help young unemployed people into jobs in the face of a frequent reluctance by employers to hire someone with little or no experience.


I appreciate that you are strongly opposed to many of the reforms that we are pushing through, and that we will generally disagree. But writing an article backing the destruction of one of the most effective schemes we have for helping young people get into work at a time when we have a real problem with youth unemployment defies my comprehension. Particularly when you have so often called for action to tackle youth unemployment.


Best wishes


Chris Grayling

 

 

It's only a matter of time before Polly responds... 

 

UPDATE: Polly has indeed responded. See comment below

Leave a comment...

polly toynbee

Few who know how the programme actually works would recognise Chris Grayling's description. I supported Michael Heseltine's programme, which was also dubbed workfare in 1996, because he obeyed three vital principles for a good work scheme: people were paid extra above their benefits for working, the work was for charities or communities, so no danger of displacing minimum wage shelf-stackers at Tesco and the pressure was applied at a time when jobs were plentiful. You have disregarded all three. The protest against Tesco has done nothing but good. Now Tesco is offering pay and a guaranteed permanent job to all on the scheme - and that makes all the difference to its worth. Well done protesters! Meanwhile, Chris, in response to your absurd idea that the protesters were 'job snobs', here's an excellent article today from my colleague Suzanne Moore that you might like to ponder: http://bit.ly/ABZfCA

Sue Marsh

Well, it MIGHT work like that, or it MIGHT be that bored and dissatisfied jobcentre staff have targets for how many sanctions they must make. They MIGHT "forget" to mention to the jobseeker (or cancer patient, depending on the day) that the scheme is voluntary. They MIGHT be forced to stack shelves having shown no interest whatsoever in "retail" or "care" (I see no engineering or law)

This is NOT just about young people however much the Government are trying to spin it that way - it affects any group - those on ESA in the WRAG, older jobseekers with years of "work experience" - there are 7 or 8 different schemes, all with different criteria and sanctions attached. 

Calling us militant Luddites or whichever other insult seems like a good spin line that day really isn't going to convince anyone is it? Are there, or are there not situations - thousands of them - where young people, older people, sick people etc are forced to work against their will, for no wage or lose their benefits? It's an easy question Chris, I know you can answer it if you try. 

 

Oliver Heald MP

Well done Chris Grayling! There is no doubt that work experience is very important in helping young people move towards obtaining a job and, at a time when so many young people are distanced from the world of work, this is vital. I was very surprised to see that Polly Toynbee does not understand the difference between work experience and a job on full wages. Many employers will not employ young people unless they have work experience, and it is therefore very important that we should have as many work experience placements as possible. To suggest that they should all be paid on full wages is wrong, because it will simply reduce the number of placements. We need as many opportunities as we can possibly have, so that as many young people as possible can gain this experience. We are in 2012, not the middle 1990s, and my recollection is that the “make work” schemes of earlier generations were always criticised. Chris Grayling is to be applauded for his latest initiative and it would be very sad if employers are put off by ill-judged sniping.


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